I fucking hate this region.

Arrive at a public transportation stop. Leaves in your face, next departure in 4-6 hours.

Another stop, does the same thing, for a very high frequency line (439). Next departure… 30 minutes.

Oh… apparently it’s only high frequency if you’re in Montréal. The frequency drops the second you leave the city 🤬🤬🤬

Don’t fucking classify the line as high frequency on the stops where it isn’t.

I think a complaint should be filed with my city so that they replace that service. Still shocked no one ran on improving public transportation!

No wonder people complain when they raise their prices.

As much as I rant on the LRT, at least it really works on speed (not frequency).

I really wish it wasn’t that expensive to take it (also $205/month)

The real test will be tomorrow, when I head to work and back.

So far, today’s been a very frustrating experience.

@EdwinG Do the STL buses 52-252 stop at the same platforms as the 439 rapibus? 9or doe they stop on conventional sidewalks and you then have to cross to middle of roads to catch the rapibus?

@jfmezei The STL and exo lines stop at the BRT stops.

I don’t know if they allow boarding at those stops though. They don’t seem to allow so at regular stops.

@EdwinG Southbound STL buses shouldn't allow boarding on the island (and if they did would still charge a B fare). But northbound, would allow boarding for people going to Laval (and charge a B fare).

@jfmezei I don’t know.

I haven’t seen what’s written on the bus sign. We were driving away when I saw the routes mentioned.

For charging zones B (and C), they use the same system the STM does. And the latter are capable of mixed zone charging; the BRT 439 invoices you a zone B when in Laval and a zone A anywhere on the Island of Montréal.

It would be surprising that exo, RTL and STL don’t have those capabilities.

It’s probably political and not technical/technological.

@jfmezei I’m pretty sure exo and RTL use mixed-zone billing now that I think of it.

I understand exo can pick up and drop off at any stop in the GMA. And RTL has buses going to zone C (and back).

@EdwinG
Looking at EXO bus routes from Vaudreuil, some go to the Island (McDonald College, and REM station). Those gong to REM station have no other stops on island, so bus at REM station could require C fare.

But those going to MacDonald college has 1 or 2 stops before terminus.

EXO *could assume* that anyone who came in to island would have only C fares on card so when boarding in Montreal, a C fare would be drawn. But machine might accept A fares for someone pretending to travel 1 stop.

@jfmezei I can confirm, they have the logic to bill all the zones.

I was billed a zone B ticket from Laval to Montréal CBD. I can’t buy a zone C fare; it’s incompatible with my OPUS card (not listed).

@EdwinG Ever since they "locked" OPUS cards to a zone (opening of REM), if you have an AB card, you can only load AB fares on it, so obviously any machine , even the metro, will draw an AB fare from it. It can't draw an A fare since there are none.

The question becomes if someone with an A opus card with only A fares loaded can board an STL bus in Montreal to travel on it. (if so, it implies honour system once you cross bridge you are expected to have a paid a B fare.