@mhoye Agreed. I am mostly unfamiliar with Tailscale. Is it a subscription service? It seems to depend on a "closed source coordination server." This makes me a bit wary.

@mhoye Thought on it and wrote a bit in my day log. In short: Tailscale seems fine, but there's an anticapitalist, "dual power" bent to the network I'm contemplating; depending on Tailscale starts to feel a bit like an additional point of vulnerability to me. I'm also going to want to write membership management software that reflects whatever governing structure we wind up with, which means at some point I'd be likely to find myself having to work around abstractions that may not be a good fit.

@lykso I hadn't considered that element of Tailscale, and it is definitely a mark against; I agree that antidependency outside of the communities is a core concern, thanks for pointing that out.

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If the commercial aspect is an issue, headscale is the open variant. Thing there is you gotta run your own NAT-busting servers, whereas tailscale provides them as a side-effect of their business.